The music of Cipriano De Rore

Quando lieta sperai


A. Type: Madrigaal
B. Number of voices: 5vv
C. Author of the text: Anguisciola, Emilia
Ct. Text: : Read
D. Possibly not of De Rore


E. To be found in the following score sources:

following: Bernstein, Jane A. (1998) :
- 1548 : {Bernstein} - 99 : 'Rore, Terzo libro di madrigal a cinque voci'

following: Huys, Bernard (1965) :
- {Huys} - 383 : 'RORE (Cyprien de). Il terzo libro di madregali dove si contengono le Vergini, et altri madrigali. Novamente con ogni diligentia ristampato. A cinque voci'

following: Lewis, Mary S. (1997) :
- 1552 : {Lewis_2} - 177 : 'RORE. III° LIBRO DE MADRIGALI A 5'

following: Lewis, Mary S. (2005) :
- 1560 : {Lewis_3} - 264 : 'CANTO (ALTO, TENORE, BASSO, QVINTO) | DI CIPRIANO RORE | IL TERZO LIBRO DI MADREGALI | DOVE SI CONTENGONO LE VERGINI, ET Altri Madrigali Nouamente Con ogni diligentia Ristampato. A CINQVE VOCI | In Venetia Appresso di | Antonio Gardano. | 1560'

following: Vogel, Emil (1892 (2de uitg., 1977)) :
- 1552 : {Vogel} - 18 : '(1552) CANTVS Dl CIPRIANO RORE | IL TERZO LIBRO DE MADRIGALI | Dove si Contengono Le Vergine, & altri Madrigali | Novamente Con ogni diligentia Ristampato. | A CINQVE (Drz) VOCI | In Venetia Apresso di | Antonio Gardane. | 1552.'
- 1557 : {Vogel} - 19/20 : '(1557) CANTVS | DI CIPRIANO DI RORE | IL TERZO LIBRO DE' MADRIGALI, DOVE SI CONTENGONO LE | VERGINI, ET ALTRI | MADRIGALI. | DI NVOVO CON OGNI DILIGENZA RIVEDVTI, ET RISTAMPATI | CON L'AGGIVNTA DI ALCVNI ALTRI MADRIGALI, PVR DEL | MEDESIMO AVTORE, NOVELLAMENTE (!) MESSI IN LVCE. | A CINQVE (Drz) VOCI | IN VENETIA, PER PLINIO | PIETRASANTA. MDLVII'
- 1560 : {Vogel} - 21 : '(1560) ALTO | Dl CIPRIANO RORE | IL TERZO LIBRO Dl MADREGALI | DOVE SI CONTENGONO LE VERGINI, ET | Altri Madrigali Nouamente Con ogni diligentia Ristampato. | A CINQVE (Drz) VOCI | In Venetia Appresso di | Antonio Gardano. | 1560'
- 1562 : {Vogel} - 22 : '(1562) CANTO | DI CIPRIANO RORE | LI MADRIGALI A CINQVE VOCI | IL TERZO LIBRO. | DOVE SI CONTENGONO LE VERGINE, | ET ALTRI MADRIGALI, NOVAMENTE | ristampati, & con ogni diligenza coretti (!). | (Drz) | IN VINEGIA, Appresso Girolamo Scotto. | MDLXII'
- 1566 : {Vogel} - 23 : '(1566) CANTO | DI CIPRIANO RORE | IL TERZO LIBRO DI MADRIGALI | DOVE SI CONTENGONO LE VERGINI, ET ALTRI MADRIGALI, | Nouamente con ogni diligentia Ristampato. A CINQVE (Drz) VOCI | IN VENETIA.'
- 1593 : {Vogel} - 15 : '(1593) CANTO | DI CIPRIANO DE RORE | IL SECONDO LIBRO DI MADRIGALI | A CINQVE VOCI, | Noamente Ristampato. (Drz) | In Venetia Appresso Angelo Gardano. | M.D.LXXXXIII.'


F. Modern score:

See 'Meier, Bernardus : Cipriani Rore Opera Omnia, Vol III : Madrigali 5 vocum' : p.34

  • Contents of this volume of Meier
  • American Institute of Musicology : Uitgave De Rore (B. Meier)


    I. Incipit: M_3_34.jpg Source: 'Meier, Bernardus : Cipriani Rore Opera Omnia', American Institute of Musicology


    J. Discography:

    1 - ' Giovanni Gastoldi - Cipriano de Rore , Ursula Connors, Shirley Minty, Edgar Fleet, Nigel Rogers, John Frost, Denis Stevens (Accademia Monteverdiana)
    2 - ' Giovanni Gastoldi and Cipriano de Rore: Secular Vocal Music , Les Ménéstrels Savoyards, Michel Dubois (Musical Heritage Society)
    3 - ' Giovanni Pierluigi da Palestrina - Missae ex Cipriano de Rore , Delitiae Musicae, Marco Longhini (Stradivarius Dulcimer)
    4 - ' Motette und Madrigale der Renaissance - Josquin Des Prés - Cyprian de Rore , Die Prager Madrigalisten, Miroslav Venhoda (Intercord)
    5 - ' O Bene Mio , Roeselaars Kamerkoor, Hans Van Daele (Eigen beheer)


    L. References:

    References with citation/remark:

    1 : Meier, Bernardus, Cipriani Rore Opera Omnia, Vol III : Madrigali 5 vocum (American Institute of Musicology (AIM), 1961)
    - p.II-III : '. . . the sonnet setting Quando lieta sperai, based on a slight modification of the poem by Emilia Anguisciola , apparently enjoyed considerable popularity, since it is parodied in masses by Andrea Gabrieli and Philippe de Monte and also in a Magnificat by Orlando di Lasso. It also appears in lute tablature in the second edition of Vincenzo Galilei's Fronimo, whereby, however, it is attributed, not to Rore but to Morales. The attribution of Quando lieta sperai, found in this source, probably accounts for its inclusion in the Nuova Spoglia amorosa (RISM15935), with the inscription "di Morales secondo alcuni"; however, both the late date of these sources and the absence of similar ascriptions would argue against attributing the work to Morales, even as an "opus dubium". It must therefore be regarded as the work of Rore. With regard to modality, this is one of those numerous works which, with a finalis of a, are nevertheless designated as "quarti toni", even after the appearance of the Dodekachordon, according to which they would be classified as Hypoaeolian'

    2 : Owens, Jessie Ann, Cipriano De Rore (The New Grove) (, 2001)
    in : Grove Dictionary of Music and Musicians, The New -, (NG), Second Edition (published in twenty-nine volumes in the year 2001), Edited by Stanley Sadie, Executive Editor John Tyrell, (2001) : 'The works pose some problems of attribution. [. . .] Quando lieta sperai is almost certainly by Morales '

    3 : Owens, Jessie Ann, Cipriano De Rore (The New Grove) (, 2001)
    in : Grove Dictionary of Music and Musicians, The New -, (NG), Second Edition (published in twenty-nine volumes in the year 2001), Edited by Stanley Sadie, Executive Editor John Tyrell, (2001) : 'A che con nuovo laccio, which was included along with Quando lieta sperai as part of a ‘filler’ gathering added to the third book of madrigals, is probably not by him. Two others, Deh hor foss’io and Volgend’al ciel, from a Scotto reprint (1562_21), can be challenged on stylistic grounds.'

    4 : Owens, Jessie Ann, Cipriano De Rore (The New Grove) (, 2001)
    in : Grove Dictionary of Music and Musicians, The New -, (NG), Second Edition (published in twenty-nine volumes in the year 2001), Edited by Stanley Sadie, Executive Editor John Tyrell, (2001) : '(? By Morales)'

    5 : Owens, Jessie Ann, Mode in the Madrigals of Cipriano de Rore. (, 1990)
    in : Charteris, Richard : Altro Polo, Essays on Italian Music in the Cinquecento, p. 1-16 (1989)
    - p.10 n.4 : 'This Appendix excludes 13 madrigals whose authenticity can be questioned because they are also attributed to other composers, appear in late or suspicious sources, or seem uncharacteristic in style. The madrigals are: 'Quando lieta sperai', 'A che con nuovo laccio', 'Volgend'al ciel', 'Deh horfoss'io', 'Spesso in parte del ciel', 'Chi vol veder tutta', 'Non mi toglia il ben mio', 'A che piů strali', 'Se qual č'l mio dolore', 'Che giova dunque', 'Alme gentili', 'Lieta vivo e contenta', 'S'eguale a la mia voglia'. Met Appendix verwijst J.A. Owens naar Appendix : Madrigals of Cipriano De Rore op p.12-15 in haar artikel.'

    References without citation:

    6 : Pennebaker, Jeffrey Roy, The use of Cipriano de Rore's madrigal Quando lieta sperai in the masses of the same name by Palestrina and Monte (, 1985)


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